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listening to foursie's one family episode 48 walking foresees one family the podcast for expats and future expenses can share in about life experiences abroad i'm your host james thomas coming to you from taipei taiwan and i'm so glad to have you traveling along with me on this journey

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me know i would love to do my best to try to get the information out to you and make this podcast useful for you and those who are thinking about being experts who are those who are already expects today my special guest is shehar bano risd she's coming to us from dohar now she's a next pad raising three wonderful children abroad and she shares

how she's raising our children and also how it has become quite normal that her kids are being raised the around people speaking different languages people who look different of different our practices and beliefs is how things became normal to there through her children is quite interesting she's a very interesting

story to tell you know and also hard it's also a very accomplished blog she has a very interesting our blog called a diary of a pmp mom pmp i let her tell you what that is and it's quite interesting her blog covers so much about even from cooking home improvement party planning yeah you know things that she sees

through her eyes as an expat she's a she's a accomplished photographer and you know she's just so much fun to talk to and in and i think you can learn a lot from her point of views of living as an expat and paint without further ado yes just listen to the interview hello welcome to the show you are how are you

today hi i'm doing good fine thank you well he'll everybody well today i'm speaking to show how donald risby and she's coming to us from where you comin to us right now as i'm located right now in doha qatar but i'm originally from karachi pakistan cool how do you into the content development in your heart as so 13 years back when i

got married then i'm gonna get i'm engaged to a guy who was in karachi and just treatments before our wedding he decided to move to la and at that time i was like okay so where is the hard part of new ae i had no idea that was separate country i was like yeah that ignorant oh so yeah so that's how i ended up in the house i had no idea

where i was going so no research just got married oh by the way honey we're moving to doha really that was your response right all right yeah i was i would like also when you said you know i have like i have a job offer from the hi i'm thinking that maybe i should move and so i'm like okay so where is that he's like doha i'm like

oh and that one of the uae like dubai and you know like you all if you know about middle east if you have a middle east you like the first thing that comes to mind is uae because of the of the x and you know all these the by being so famous online and so does it close to the wave tonight

yeah it's a separate country actually honey it's not so sorry did you want over to the you know encyclopedia you start googling everything about you know doha knowledge that i think you know what i didn't do any any homework like like being an ocd and i do my homework yes i did not do any homework moving to do i was actually i wasn't that bubble

where i was getting married and i had so much on my mind and there was a lot of other things to deal with if i would have mattered if i would have moved me let's say after you know you're after my marriage then probably i would have but that at that time i was in the in the you know in the wedding bubble getting reading perhaps down and all that i

didn't care i was moving as long as i was when my husband like i'm good but that's just a good honeymoon period right yes exactly so i'd really didn't bother to see where cutter was or what what was there in color or you know but he actually yeah he grew up in the south arabia remember a long time like he

lived the beginning office like i think about 10-15 years he lived in the insider david so he had an understanding of how the middle east is and so i just trust them on local he said and he used to travel for work like quite often to cut and use that i'm used to find out he was to you know come back and you know i used to ask him how is it you can burger

king there although you know you yeah so he kind of yeah you don't eat at you like yeah i had a different perception about it but yes i remember i was i was actually on a holiday in us before i got married and he sent me a picture of burger king written in arabic call us yeah it's like they're i'm very good

thank you i know i can't eat something he was just he was just trying to show you that you know the heart is not someplace out of space you know it is yeah exactly exactly and and i get that i got a lot in the beginning now my family is gone you know wrap their heads around that model is and they've been here and stuff

but my mind my brother was like he was visiting me for the first time here and he went like is it okay if i very short in the like can i wear shorts like you don't think that i'm going to desert living in like you know i'm use cameras to travel or hunting like that so there was like a very wrong perception of what do is but yeah and how you know how

strict they are about the dress corn and even if being a man he would be wearing shorts would be ud be like beating on his leg whole thing sort of you know they've heard that the saudi arabia stories and all that and there there's a perception that a muslim arab world would be all of would be like that not true there's no room

yeah so it's kind of like after 13 years now didn't know yeah i was like this go like oh you fancy living people you are like you know that you live in luxury and all that so now the perception is shifted from being in the delta 15 start with alex is a kind of you know interesting like you know i'm sure your your family and friends when they heard

that he ok you got married wonderful news and then you jump into another place you know what they maybe haven't even heard of and like if i think you're living on mars but i'm sure you have to go back home and say no we do have this this and that you know yeah and how did you how did they take or basically onto my primarily for family how do they take

the news of you shooting off to do her how did they take that first yeah yeah so how we have three siblings my my parents were in garage even like we all all all of three words i grew up and grouchy but they can't they're all where they're all had moved out i was i'm the youngest of my sibling that i was only one living with my parents so my my

sisters in u.s. minnesota my brother is in canada and so i was the only one there and you know like so they were like okay cool you want to move out of facts time and they were pretty open about it i can go ahead and i soon as i moved out of box online parents asked the house and they migrated to canada and i find that

interesting yeah so yeah so you know according to international that you know that's cool though oh yeah and i have family in brazil i have family and like you name it you never know yeah we're not talking what--like not in time i was about you like not in taiwan

use the land on the middle east and in large america south america everybody well i got some room here so you know if you ever get now in this region you know what you can start by yes i will however i've never added never been to that side of the world well it's not just your excuse that's your excuse me i do yeah yeah it let me

let me talk a little bit about ok you lived out there for 13 years right what what yeah what was ok and you're married and you know doing great and we talked a little bit more than another thing but how was the adjustment period you have to go through how was that like you know what was some of the things that you because it is different from home right

so what kind of things here just yeah yeah alright so what happened was that okay you know i don't know if you've been to pakistan karachi is like as and the garage he is not the capital of box and what karate is like a big metropolitan city right you know like and it's called the city of lights don't just like it's happening and it's like

all the time they're like traffic on the lord and you know a lot of happening right then i can't keep the center and back in 2004 and the the population of qatar was 7 lakhs only mm and it sound like i have moved in do like you know it was like it was so quiet like everybody would like go to like all the lights out by 10pm i can be able to come out in the

in the in the in the city it would be like shops are closed there's no eating place to have food from gratis the opposite like you know 12 o clock in the middle of the night you want to have a snag you know and then the restaurant open but so it was it was a very difficult which i enjoyed because it was the honeymoon

period we could focus on ourself and he loved it initially like 4-5 months because was just me and my husband and we had all the time in the world to like spend with each other and you know i'm but after about like six months i started to get depressed fingers if yeah because we didn't mean like have a great social life there weren't many pakistani

expect the one we got introduced to wear either like 35 like we're here for about like 35 years ago when the difference like each group all together and we were like kids to them really so because if ya and so it was kind of like we won he was struggling with finding a social circle and and i wasn't working i was i was a

before i moved here i was working in karachi and i was doing my masters in the evening so i would i would leave the house at like eight o'clock in the morning and step back in at 10pm tonight i was like that busy work and and and university and then when i moved here it was just quiet my husband will go to work and i'm like

okay what we're doing so i've you know i've never ventured into the kitchen so i was like doing some experiments there and that permits i got ya i i was like i was not i can cook like i can just i could just fry an egg and make tea that that's all that i could do so before i got married i last sat down with my mom i like give me your recipe i

mean i just lured them down and father would be like why don't you just you know going to step into the kitchen and we are more i'm how she cooks so you at least have an idea what you say and you don't you write down to but you at least like see it for yourself huh we'll see wrote so i never i never did and until i got married and i had to so

yeah oh so that i was busy at that time you know what setting up the house decorating your first like that was a first for like for me i was living with my parents before in pakistan so it was my first home so you know decorating and all that so all that thing's everything just got

settled after six months and then i was i was starting to get depressed because there was nothing to do what do i do all day and like kind so then i started to like look for work here again and started working and that is i i think when i actually settled out of the city and what i started work as well then i made friends at work and you know that

that is when my social life kind of mood oh yeah picked up you know your job sounds very you know you your your project management professional while you know it sounds demanding yes it was and that is why i that is why i like this professional just so demanding that i can't do it like i had to be a part-time project manager so i had to

you know i had to make the decision off that i had kids that i want to stay home because i would be working on the weekends too and i would be like you know there's a system big break doubt i was looking for a leading bag here in their it so it was like it was like money transaction going here and there like pressure on me if nothing goes

wrong so yes i've been on i'm working on the weekend up in the night looking for the other happening so we have my job was quite demanding i'm moving like moving like lightning right yeah it would never even think of moving so fast yes at that time that i was like in like you know there was a lot of lot of

development going to quickly like it was just well just coming up on the map and you know like so from 2004 imagine from 2004 from the population of seven lakh to 2060 now it's a three it's about 2.5 million people wow and yeah and so is anyone really noticing how many foreigners there but there's a big population mostly from now

so there are only about 300,000 locals here mm so all other areas expect right so yeah so there's a bakery x-pac population here but yeah so the thing but quite busy at the time you know there was a lot have a lot happening a lot of pressure on on all the businesses do you know too because

we're to keep up with the growth of the country so so yeah it was a variable is applied pressure job but i loved it because i was getting so bored of cooking and kitchen then all that stuff and i will not my my type of thing at all you sometimes mrs. i do actually yes i do you know i'm and when i was i was

when i got pregnant i was expecting and i was towards to have bread dress there was a complication so when i told my boss that you know i'm gonna go on a he said you can come back whenever you want to like yeah two years and she goes to a nursery or anytime i am brave enough to leave her at the babysitter's little something i will

come back to work and i never did they they call me again i went for an interview and i find that high you know walking into that you know corporate culture back into my zone but i got scared again i'm like i can't leave my bb anywhere yeah my mom's learned consistently and a modern thing a go where like everything right right yeah

fine tooth comb because you know that the way i found you was interesting i i look i'm looking doing a little small little series on expat parenting and things like that i found your site very interesting site diary of a pmp mom which is that the name just hit me upside the head i i just said to myself i have to find this person you know so i

did my best investigative reporting and tracked you down and i'm just really happy that i got to class like this i feel like honored but what i want to talk a little bit about your site to but you know what i want to share a little bit i want please share with us a little bit about how it is you know raising children abroad you want them to

function of course in their present location and also understand the local culture in the area but also there are home commands like that i mean that can be quite tricky right it is actually it is quite tricky and we have like i wouldn't say that we have you already admitted he's like struggling everyday with that for example the language right

so we may i have three kids now and and so the eldest one is eight girl and then two boys who are 54 on her before and they're dead they're they're actually irish when they're like 11 months apart oh that's another that's another whole story ok we see the 443 yeah so i love ya and me and we have like a domestic help so

we have a live-in nanny who lives with us she's from philippines so there's a lot of languages going on in the house and what we struggle with is because they go to a british school and the they do learn arabic and they do learn french it's cool but the major language is like you know the bit which everything is started equation then but their home

they the daddy could speak our language which is or do or to add or do yes that's that's that's that's what we speak in pakistan but there's a lot of languages pockets are different provinces but that's the dash the language which is or do which is that quite similar to hindi right okay yeah so i'm so we struggle with that like my

kids i like struggle and speaking or do like reading and add the reading and writing is a different game altogether but we're just traveling together to speak or do because i hope we are also talking in english because of the daddies they're moving like you so yeah my husband is like my husband loves like you know he's a he's old boy it is

poetry in order though yeah so it's like he's like i'm an older boy it and my kids cocks pic or two okay when i'm kind of confused you okay the english they're learning in this in school arabic and school and the ordered a learning at home so so like what happened there now because of daddy be at home but she don't

understand acordou the the the language that we normally speak in the houses also english so they are not getting as exposed to or do as much damage as if they were in pakistan they would be like speaking although fluently and even reading or writing it so and so my husband took it to heart that you don't have another two points my kids can't

even speak or do properly so that we're doing like we made it and he made an effort to you to work with the pakistani bessie school to have weekend classes of the like boys married yeah so they're doing that so that's it yeah it's such a struggle it's an extra effort like which was if he wanted pockets that would be a given they would

be speaking of the line like you don't do everybody like it's just that the language it's quite interesting is interesting i have a friend of friend that he lived in his piece canadian why was i think she's but just central european nation and the nanny was from of course of beijing and a little bit little kid would get angry at the dad

because the little kid would speak to the dead and mandarin chinese with the dad not speak and get angry why doesn't dad understand me you know when the kids are very young sometimes they don't know which one i was declared to operation pressure here so that that's the day so yeah so then i need sometimes trying to teach them that

logo like no hookup goodness there are focusing right now on i'll do look what you know about that is so funny when my husband edward that he resisted the nanny is violently in the weekend classes oh cool like all the kids sitting and learning or do and then there's our naniwa

oh yeah those are learning that is certainly can land yes he's like unless she learns how to speak the library we are not going to speak in the house because the kids would you know speak too hard so he liked the old do police in the house you would be like you know everybody even if the nanny says something english like no

no door do ya know yeah i'm so dedicated yes yes yes he's like and he's like you know what his dad is so funny of all the nursery rhyme that they have you know learned in school and nursery and preschool like twinkle twinkle little star here or yeah a basic one huh he is actually be sincere the point he is translating them in or door oh

goodness and so and so and so that and in the same like so then they arrived the ride stays the same so there every you know so they can sing when the same around you but in a different language hopefully the website has a website stuff cause this is like the lord to police this is the first time that yea though the police in our house yeah

so he wants me as i did a little bit of digital illustration staff back last year so he's like why don't i do this and you do the older illustrate like the illustrations with my poetry's and then we can have or donor street i'm booked online yeah that's a good idea maybe one day yes why not wonder yeah we picked the

kids are and your need a beta testing it so the public may be great so she picking it up to the yes so just this lower but yeah progress is there you can see the progress the kids singing like nursery rhymes twinkle twinkle in and we'll do our itsy-bitsy spider and will do as you know like so yeah

how often do you get the kid back home go back to and pakistan or and hopefully get back so you know that it wanted we have is that be just two hours away from one that's so i it's not it's like you know and and that is probably why we're stuck here for like we've been here for 13 years because we still the proximity to back home and worst and what our

family so international i told you a half of the family the north america while my love a few now left in pakistan on so what we do is we split our vacation so summer is a new ad and winters isn't gold so yeah because the weather is nicer in karachi in winters otherwise in summer

is very human heart and you know the kids then get like i by to the ones to continue like sweating and you know like you're taking a shower i really like twice a day but still like you know so it's kind of a challenge taking them in the summer so yeah summers in the minnesota yeah and windows and karate that's how we split go back go back to

my original question outside was how do you keep them how do you say in touch with their original roots as compared to where they are now i mean what kind of questions you may be you get questions from the media ask you you know mommy why this and why that or the other things that you sometimes need to explain to them but they're going to

their young pretty young right now yeah they are so i know it like my daughter does she's like she's in that stage where she has a lot of questions now she's like turning almost turning nine so yeah now what happens is that like for all these questions and their the difficult part of the job i give it i i like a stampede

this is the relay race ok path of the day you know what that no but you know you have to make an extra effort the la like me try to keep them mom you show them the the like showing that the news is not what i would like to do a show them how pakistan is because that's such a bad you know they only show like the bathroom happening it's like this dying

that dying that bob had a new cells is is that yeah so there's a little bit some good you know on the kid friendly tv shows that we tried to watch with them so they didn't know then go back to pakistan it's like you're never and never left you know they're like yeah because and and being so close to a to pakistan the cutter being so close to

pakistan we have like family visiting quite often like my my husband mom comes over once in the year my mom comes over something or the other keeps happening so that the kind of you know the kind of stay connected to the culture plus the good thing about in it for us in qatar is that it's a muslim country so there-there holidays like we have to eat

in the muslim culture which is like your christmas right so it's the same and pakistan so it's not like it's not like a big cultural shock for them like it's not going back to karachi because they know that we celebrate eat there we celebrated here but they kind of like because they're pretty school there is why don't we celebrate christmas and i

have family i'd like my my my aren't one of my arms is an american so my cousins are america so we be kind of you know me kind of celebrate everything but yeah so it's kind of funny you have to make an effort to and and then maybe social we have a we have a fox funny x-pac's social circle as well so we do like these these activities for

kids where they do you know what what they would do in parking ban just like the eid holidays make it a fun for the grid a little learning experience for them so they understand what it is and how we run the hammer yeah creating a handful connect this is not so difficult to me because a lot of things to juggle i mean

when you didn't have you think your kids are seeing people that look different and i'm sure they go to minnesota however you you know even how this person looks this way or just the language they speak is this way to get questions questions like that from your daughter you know but after that there's an advantage to that like me i'm growing

up i never left the country until i was 13 that was the first time i went to us or uk and then i was like ok they're like lon whole lot of different people but they have been living abroad they have been exposed to these different people since birth so it's so normal for them they don't they don't care if somebody's white or black or you know or

chinese or our era that it's just like for them it's just it's just normal thats that's the way people are there was a different but yeah so even if they go to us or they go to pakistan they don't have a problem connecting because this day like in their school which is an international school they have like in 20 kids there are people from uk

pakistan canada like this so many different of you know nationalities in in her class that i don't think that normal that is yeah its liable for her so it doesn't it doesn't matter we do get questions sometimes sometimes like that you know why are we celebrating christmas my mind on getting a criminal yeah i like okay

you gotta eat gift so you know you can get like to get some very good yeah you know like so you have to like explain that so why do we muslims do this and they don't do that and you don't agree with understood that great yeah but i think these kids are lucky to be exposed to like so much so many

cultures at such a young age like they've just opened their eyes and that that i think that's that's a plus point i don't see it as a as a as of difficult because like i'm if i see myself yes i was like i didn't know anything other than pakistan continue until 13 yeah this is a million your by you saying this to to me it's

you know it click bells and whistles on my head because you know i have friends and relatives back home and it states that you know some of them may be having left the state you know and when i go back home and try to explain things to them i am i constantly and hitting walls to try to explain without sounding how do you say arrogant or or that i'm

special my life abroad is romantic and your kids are experiencing something to them that's normal that i'm sure you know when april when you eventually do go back home and they don't make you think they'll have difficulty trying to explain their overseas experience to friends back home or in that in that situation

oh why don't think so you know like they are like they do struggle to go meet their cousins back in canada and us that like you know that it would those who haven't been here they still think that she's probably riding camels to go to rule but so she doesn't have to explain that ok no we learn french to you know me do this too and we have like we have

a soccer club to that i go to i do swimming and all that so the license is normal here which i feel that my kids have an advantage because they have seen more of life at the age of each then a kid was live less than her cousin who was probably the same age but living in the us and have not left the us right you know like so they have only seen one

culture the door us had a lot of you know different cultures and different little difference immigrants a lot of different people living there but it's still like in order it's still not add which they're not as as exposed as my kids are here too we are different people and then eventually finding that you know abby it either some traditional

maybe this this be different either accident different but deep down they're all her friends and they're all the same and they have you know they all of my right is young kids don't have that problem don't have their problems yeah exactly they don't judge they just they just find common ground and they they connect on that like when we adults

that you know kind of find differences and kind of you know stay away from each other sort of letting you know that using that and using the dog dui and you know now if you do not 13 anymore not eating right and what do you find yourself because you've lived in so you know different cultures and stuff like that you got a brother over here in

canada sister i didn't mean to us do you feel that sometimes you have to talk to people back home or it too tired to try to like change your ideas of certain stereotypes of people back home and things like that yeah dave leg you know as i said before as well this was this but like i struggled with it like in the beginning

because nobody knew what color was are you know and and got there was a very very small country at that time as well it was not now it's like so much in the news because of the c5 person into are you know this and that and a lot happening and it's coming up on the map but and my family has visited like quite a few times and seen my life you know

like how it is here but before the initially yes it was it was kind of a struggle like people to all so you guys do there are you know the same yet it was just so how is it how hard it like someone's here are bad so like how its it was boiling 50 degree centigrade that's just crazy yeah that's ask craziest minus 30 degrees fire started

mr. right but we just do that would be like me you heat up your cards and ready to the car that we just like to put the ac on fresh before going to the garden so it's just it's just like the end but by family and like you know living abroad now they have got the there now they know what what it is about but i'm sure you know a little about still must

be a lot of people who are not wear off or have like these reservations about how a middle eastern country would be and they're all like kind of kind of from they all have the saudi american that oh my god you cannot do a woman can drive so i get question i can you drive i'm like yeah can you wear this i'm like

yeah are you supposed to bed that vehicle and get out of the house and like no you know like so they did they all kind of have these exemptions that but now it's going like now i don't have to explain once they've visited here now so it's got kind of yeah they've come down that's why that is crap and holes disc

the same question in two different ways you know that's why i pulled the same question in two different ways to try to see if i can bring out a different angle because you know living living abroad does doesn't require allows you to experience things that sometimes ii you would be surprised yourself is there any part of your experience debt that you

think that would stay with you no matter where you go no what i mean is like or something i'm habit you picked up in indo hard at that you probably always take with you no matter what other country or if you go back home cause you know sometimes you do pick up some local habits that somebody just glued to you somehow

oh yeah i have now and the love for homeless and i rebuke from that i've got because then i moved here i'd like pakistani food base by sea and various by love it when i moved here i love it yes but i moved here and like i would never try everything very everything so bland like you know like so i i miss that like i missed that thing but now

over at i now it's like you know you develop something and now it's like when i go abroad and i'm looking for all this time please have a good turkish and lebanese food something close to arabic food because you kind of develop a case for it over time and yeah so the food being one and i would say like you don't need to think about living and expect

life what it teaches you and what it has specifically dot with me that i would that i think is going to stay with me forever the is the you know you're you're looking at things from different perspective it's so amazing that in a small century of like 250 million people we're only 300,000 are locals and all

other acts bags from like all around the world had so many cultures living together in harmony respecting each other's culture and you know practices and that is just amazing and looking at at each other's you know and and you get to look at others perspective as well so so that is something that you don't like when i was living in pakistan i just you

look at all the pakistani bell ringing i never let you know i never lived or so any other time even if i move to some other country i don't know if i would have but this is like a very like this very intense and very high on extract population so that i think that that is what i have that one going to stick with me for a for a long time that this you

know this perspective that i have i change of perspective that to see and respect and you know what to do because the other in my like if you add and i live in apartment building and in my building like on my floor they're probably six nationality you know people of succession ality living together and you know so they're

different food cooking and then this happening and that smells even a good mood that's now you know you used to any of this yeah so there's a lot of what you need to be like you know you need to be flexible and i think that is major flexible and having that ability to adapt is the is the key of living more

garage like as an expert yes if you can if you can do that then you can you not have a successful life and expect outside but if you can't then you probably then people like i don't know people who have been here for like 30 years 35 years actually like i i know people my age was growing like who were born here so i'm like my mid-thirties

now their parents came here they were they grow they grew up here the and abroad to study like uk or newsletter or something and they came back and they still love it and still living here right and then there are people who come and you know the format within a few months there like the canadians micrometeorites

god ya take a pic of x i don't say that you know i good yeah yeah but yeah it's always been how flexible you are and how how willing are you how many to adapt you know to the new culture and respecting their culture as well i really what you said about other locals i like what about you know being flexible you know being able to because

we did you too rigid you gonna snap right yeah yeah it's not good for your number four others like you you know it's just you embrace life and just don't take it our down and see where it takes us you know your website is you know i'm go back to the diary of a pmp mom you know this yeah nobody things up there yes so many

of things with your kitchen life is up there party planning planning and then what's this movie this movie book review sex me this is what i guess not this is like this is crazy and always looks too much time but this is all like my left side is just all that i am and so whenever i whatever moves me or drive

me to do something or write about something something that it's such an like i just started this year but really it doesn't have a good feel for what you have so much so much i yes a lot of contender but it i just added in the last year up to over 2015 and and that is when my mind and my youngest would started nursery and on my own so i'm

free now all the moms like the school so i have time for myself what do i do and so i have been i had ventured into a few things that had done some cake decorating business as well and i had a dad like you know trying to keep myself busy i just constantly boo i have gd huh this is yeah that would be yes see delusions me i am is more it

yeah so it's all about by what what what i am and what i do like some parenting stuff some books or movies i really like and i would like people to watch it or you know for i i don't like i'm not know i movie critic her and think that i would you know comment on how the how the filming water the technical technical issues you would know that by

heart try to provide ya know but i want my my review would be like how it moved me what i liked about the movie the message that was giving and you know do i agree that our way to one degree but i talk about that aspect i don't look about like my movie was not like the the technical critical movie reviews it's

more off what moved me so any book or any more any movie that you know i think people should go up and right i put my two cents on him you know was trying to put it out there do you spend on the run on this blog how to sign this and you're grabbing a lot of soon yeah my husband cause it's like you like doing better for me maybe looking ok and

you would but yeah he thinks that he only thing that i'm ocd and i know that i am but i just like to stay busy and he believed in his staff and his work and all that i would be like okay what do i do so what i do is like normally how much time to work on it is my kids go to bed by seven they're sleeping by seven like because

we were like another the school started seven pm-7 a.m. in the morning some 50 so they wake up at like five thirty in the morning the day starts very early so this is the six o'clock there in bed and by seven their god so that is the time when i pick up my laptop and i'm picking my camera or whatever i'm doing and then i started writing or working on the blog

till about midnight well so that is yeah so that is what i do for a better therapy that is almost that's my therapy it's like it's it is really bright side would be and yeah so from from from not being able to like coco you know just writing my mom recipe now people like you who come over my friends and everybody did help me all

your base this really well and that various going to share the recipe said why not make me you know make an online recipe book for examples and that i enjoy photography so i read up on that you know you have read and taught me and yes so i i do front friend talked me a few tips and tricks and you know suggested with camera i should get on

that got me started and i do get go back to him from my questions but yeah i read up on that and then i tried different photography and styles and stuff so into strike it's like a creative outlet and it just it just it just makes me have a have a good and i i yeah and i just like it's like i'm doing it for my stuff and i just feel content doing that and i

think my daughter is gonna tank me and then she doesn't have to him she's getting married she probably would not have to sit with me with the rest ok can you give me a rest look it up on a website lets yeah yeah it's all for yourself like yeah it's like i have i have digitalizing everything for you with the chairs and step-by-step injures

know you can get like i'm gonna be one of the answers now because you know i love food so i mean you get so i mean it's as diary of a pmp mamma.com is very cool i mean you got like everything you got diy projects they're like besides again home improvement stuff yeah well you're the tiny little through my lens that's the photography part of

it right and that's that's my god that's so why i mean i mean yeah well you point everybody to and this is great on and i'm think i'm a little children like it's like yeah it's like i like the people who follow me and then you you know photography into the asses well like me you know somebody who will rent an interesting recipe they'll have a lot

of different like variation of you were because like everybody's interested in certified of there but yeah so it's it's being very very satisfying and i was telling my husband that you know like i'm working in a corporate environment and being a project manager and begin lead and leading the team and all that that has

its own high and over and you get like paid for it pretty much do and all that stuff but this one year of blogging and doing making up this website and you know my it's like my own it has been much more satisfying that all those years of career but i want something you just get into your just just doing it and that's part of your job and

something over having a bad day but you still have to do it and this is i got my own pace i'm not feeling well i'm not doing dishes and i just love it i can do it at my orderly it'sit's that's why we call it therapy that's what we call it yes it is i mean youyou so interesting you okay we got the ocd we we got the order husband' police great

yes the last really adam and i'm sure i'm going to have you back on the show again after maybe a year or two because you got these three wonderful kids i like to hear their story as dave developed this is gonna be really really interesting and you're moving at the i like to use this phrase a speed of light tell me something what kind of advice

what advice would you give to someone who wasn't thinking about making the leap making the move to experience living life abroad what would you say is your biggest advice or tips that you will give people who are thinking on along that track you know i i think the only thing that matters is being open-minded and as i said flexible so

that it would things would be different if you if you can adapt to changes because not gonna be like you're your own comfort zone your own home country you know where everything you get your comfort food and you get you anywhere you know you have your family around and everything so it's it's all about being open to open to change like if you are

mentally open to do a different color mature learning about you and if you're interested in that then go ahead why not it's it's it's an amazing learning experience like every day you get to learn such amazing thing that i still get intrigued by been here for 14 year but i still getting treated by the local customs and and you would be too if you

know you would not be happy man grabbed her but you know these these locals of the countries in the the wedding has to be like sponsored completely from a to z by the groom the bride has the bride of the prob i right parents they have nothing to do with the reading reading expensive so it's also it's like you know you get to learn like such a

meeting like you know things about different cultures and different perspectives and vital they do that and you know it's amazing living living the in a community like this is yeah you know yeah thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy day three children come on and and to spend with us here you know with me in my audience

because you know i'm trying to bring the world closer that's why i say foresees one family we are all the same but uniquely different thank you very much being with me thank you for looking me i was a pleasure talking to you and the time went by it was like a normal to check so i died i was a little nervous about this interview thing when you

messaged me initially but yeah my confessions budget but i had a great time was lovely chatting with you i'll be i'll be talking to you again about another year or so you know i'll keep my diary of you here and we see how this journey girls so i can thank you for being with us here at 41 family and we can find you at the website diary of a

pmp mom dot com she gets everything on there i mean from food movies and home approach she gots it you know and and and we can find you there or you can send us a message here at forces one family and our speaker page or you know i'll get the message to heart and i really thank you again take care now that thank you so much for bye-bye

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