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amsterdam was born as a city as an internationalport, actually there was, with london actually with the british empire, was one of the bigempire that was going back and forth. was born as a crossing ways and actually of coursethere are sailors, with money started with prostitution. you remember the church where we found wherewe met, this is called the oude kerk that means old church and it has been built therein order to stop prostitution it didn't work! (so prostitution was there first!) yes, yes the prostitute was here first andthey try to make this church in order to bring

some decent life and they failed totally (so they had lots of randy priests runningaround the place?) now is came the best, on the 13th centurythey decided to make it legal and the prostitutes or the tenants had to go to the priest inorder to have the extension from the sin for a certain period for example. you will befree of sin for one week, so for the week they could do everything because they werevery catholic and of course they had to pay, yes we are talking about the catholic church. (you kind of have to respect them for that,don't you really!) actually i'm italian so i have catholicismin my vein and i hate it! italy is a wonderful

place with a big cancer inside that is calledthe city of vatican. i love the pope but the church by itself is not good (we understand. we are from ireland so youdon't have to tell us, you don't have to tell us!) that's true, actually i think that we arespoiled as well like you ok, ah yes, 13th century it become legal andactually this bring a new wave of using prostitution first of all its not so bad the scene as inother countries here it's normal, in fact here you can findduring the saturday morning, and the sunday, and the friday saturday morning you can seeeven school that is passing by in the red-light

because they have to spend one lesson aboutsexual stuff and so they check out the red lights, this within the cities, and they haveto spend one lesson talking about drugs in the schools. so you can see sometimes theschool the fact that now its so clean and everythingis perfect is because they started to show everything. all these girls are self-employed, they payabout from 50 to 150 of rent for one day, 8 hours of window, and normally you pay from50 to 70 euro for what they call suck and fuck, i mean 15 minutes because they are verygood in 15 minutes they are done! blowjob and a fuck normally with a brown (?). youhave always to contract the price when you

get in. suck and fuck maybe they are totally coveredand you can not take pictures and there is a very intense security system. you see allthese windows , at the back of the window there is a corridor that connects with otherrooms. if they hear some scream, or she hit a hidden button, arise immediately two orthree giant men, they send you out. in fact if you pay for the night sometimesyou are yahh (drunk and angry), people like that and if they are sent out from here normallythey finish in the canal! (so do they have to pay a tax to the government?) yes of course. they pay taxes and actuallytaxes of marijuana, and taxes of prostitution

are two big revenues, especially the amsterdamcity and that's why these places are not closed. because they makes a lot of money there are girls that come here for making6 to 8 months of prostitution and then they pay 5 years of university because if you think50 minutes, lets have 3 clients per hour, 8 hours is 150 per 8 hours is already 1000in a day (and there is tax on this?) yes of course, but even taxes, because asyou have costs. ok you can say i have done ten customers, inside you have 30. its likethe coffee shop, the coffee shop as well, they pay taxes but there is no registry. andi will explain you later how it works. but

in the register they can say i just sold onekilos of weed, in fact they sold 3 kilos. because there is no register of whose comingthey can sell whatever they want. but since its working good for the society.... (what do the ordinary amsterdam people thinkof all this?) actually its normal, its like a a sign onthe corner, because its perfectly normal and its normal for example to have a neighbourthat is a hooker here in fact, this thing i was telling youabout that a drug user is not seen as a criminal. it works even for prostitutes. they are makingmaybe an uncomfortable job, but not a dirty job , like in all the other places. and withthe systems, ok you have people who of course

here there is lots of noise, people yahha,horny and back, but this way i don't know how it is on your places but in italy prostitutionis not legal but you find hookers on the road. people who stop on the verge of the road haveaccident, have public disturbance and everything and this absolutely brings more criminality. this way of course i think there are someof them are spoiled or exploited by some other people but almost 70% of the prostitutes hereare here for their will not because they have been imported and forced to prostitution (it's the best of what you can do, i guess) (what percentage are from the netherlands?)

actually from this point of view don't reallyknow because there is no registry, they have the guilds.but they give you no information some ideas in your country, here are totallynormal (i guess with this kind of system, like withthe shops closing, the situation can change very quickly, all the time?) yes, even the windows are under the supervisionof the major that can reduce or enlarge the red light district on his will, just enoughthat he just when a window finishes a license he doesn't renew it. so in fact there wasa lot more windows around here. now if you go later will make a round when you come backone of my favourite spots because there are

models (yeah, yeah, will i stop recording will i?) you are married?????? meanwhile i smoke a cigarette? (only cigarettes, those things will kill you,tobacco, that's the worst!) yes i know but its one of the things i cannotquit, tobacco, weed and girls ok coffeeshops, i told you in 1976 the netherlandsdecided to make this division hard drugs and soft drugs and for the softdrugs they created these places that are called coffeeshops, you can in these places was andis allowed to consume and sell weed

while outside in the city is not absolutelyallowed or permitted to sell or consume weed here in the centre of amsterdam if you goaround with a joint in the street they don't tell you nothing because you are in the centreof duke just go in another place or just outside amsterdamwith a joint, if you cross the cops they stop you, they give you a fine because you arenot a criminal you are doing something bad because it is for public nuisance but youare not a criminal they just give you a fine and adjourn the coffeeshop, since they work outside thelaw, since cannabis is illegal and this is absolutely true, they work in this so calledgrey zone, that it means, grey zone, is a

grey zone that is between legal and illegal, the police knows but don't care. there is a backdoor policy, i mean that ofcourse they cannot buy weed from anybody because growing weed for selling is an offence andis a very big offence. if you can grow by yourself until upto 5 plants in your apartmentand the 6th plant you could be arrested. usually they take you away the plants and they letyou go because anyway it is low priority weed and hashish seem not to make real damageto society, to other people they are not taking care if you are talking about hard drugs they findyou with a personal dose of hard drugs they take it away and they let you go. hard dose,about 2 or 3 grams of cocaine or heroin they

give you a fine, if you have more they cangive you dealing charges and actually how it works the coffeeshop there are growers that actually usually connectedto the hell angels or to smugglers that grow in apartment a huge number of plants and theysell it to the coffeeshop from the so called back door, this is the famous back door whenthey call they speak about the back door of a coffee shop it is this system. from theback door arrive a guy, that is called a runner with his bag full of weed, half a kilo ofthis, half a kilo of this and half a kilo of this if you are a private you can go around thecity with 5 grams of weed, top, without any

problem the coffeeshop can have a maximum of 500 gramsin the place and the place related so even the place where the coffeeshop owner is living.so in fact sometimes when they want to close a coffeeshop they make a raid in the coffeeshopin the place of the guy and everything is related and if they find even one gram more,they're done now in many cities outside amsterdam theyare required to be a resident in order to enter into a coffee shop (oh, really?) yes, especially in the south because thisis intended as a measure in order to stop

the smuggling to belgium, germany and france (so we couldn't enter that place?) no, no here in amsterdam they don't askyou. the minimum that you must be of legal age of 18 the coffeeshop runs with 5 golden rules. nohard drugs. no people under 18 ehhhhhhhhhhhhh (ha. no more than 500 grams) no more than 500 grams in total. no weapons,no i already told that i'm certainly tired!

(its ok, no alcohol) no alcohol there is a bar.there is the trick for example.there is a bar that has near a coffeeshop, together with the coffeeshop you are goinginto your bar and have your joint. your beer, you jagermeister or.. actually there is a bar that i have seen thatyou can have joints as well this is actually an exception to the rulebecause they can get a fine, if they come in and we still adhere to the european lawthat all the places are actually no smoking and you have to have a place for smoking area

there are some bars that don't give a shit.sometimes you have to chip in 10 cents in order so when they come they get the finethey already have the ....... and if they fail in any of these 5 rules,the premises is closed immediately. no mercy about that in fact this is another thing that makes thisthing work, you have boundaries in which you can do whatever you want just step outside these boundaries they aregoing to beat you very hard (kind of like self-policing then, they know...) exactly, but for example even for drug addicts,junkies of heroin some people that are in

a certain state that they are really veryaddicted, old, this kind of stuff. they have no money they (the government) normally givehouse, and some money for living and the drug and the heroin for the daily dose. if theyare caught in doing something illegal but even if they, i don't know, sleeping onthe street or this kind of stuff, they lose all their privileges this way they are actually motivated, motivatingthem in order to behave (a set of rules, follow them!) so in this way many of the junkies actuallyhave an active social life, they have a job, they pay the taxes, and some people that theymeet, they are kind and normal people and

from a point of view this is incredible, itsquite a miracle because really heroin is one of the most destructive drugs ever seen, wellnow there is even worse but........... and this place is are the first source forhelp and treatment for heroin user. they have a very high percentage of people that arerecovering without falling back (are people sleeping up there?) there are rest room, they cannot sleep overnightbecause it's not a hostel, but there are hostels all around the city even for junkiesthat they have to go here in order for their stuff and then for sleeping they have to go,for example, near the central station (if something bad happens, i mean, there ismedical help?)

there is residence of medical, there is, actuallythe lady on the first floor that is the one that is handling and sending the people tothis room was an ex addict.that after 25 years of addiction she give up and she recoveredcompletely, went to a community in the south of the netherlands, and came back and shestarted to volunteer here, and now is 5 years. (can i bring that back to the first, eh thechurch of acahuasca (ayahuasca!)) ayahuasca! (sorry i am ...) ayahuasca, it was difficult for me, its aninca word! (so many people say that it's a pretty goodway of getting off heroin and hard drugs,

because it's a shock to the system, i meani don't know....) absolutely, there are many people use it butthis is not related to the religion because the religion is one thing you do all thiskind of stuff (yeah i'm just wondering if that idea hasbeen...) no not yet, they are using a methadone programmein order to escalate it but lately they... (because some countries are thinking of that,i know brazil and america..) yes but there is the problem of mental state,usually an addict is not mentally free, in order to have this kind of psychedelic experienceyou must have an inner balance that is powerful, this is why actually they don't, ok i wantto do ayahuasca and you are making the rite

of two month. it's the priest that decideswhen you are ready because he sees you, about yeah, now you are ready, even if you havea problem because many people really they solve the problem during this trip actually it's a sort of very similar tothe rite of the coming of age of the indians of the incas of america, that you do thisvery intense experience that makes you know yourself very well, and actually i think thisis the real trick in the ayahuasca, i mean that you have self-knowledge, and actuallyi can tell you..... (a self-humility maybe is it?) more than humility, you know more, you canexcept your limits, and honestly everybody

takes drugs , me as the first person thathas smoked and i did lots of ecstasy , amphetamine, and lot of things in the past because i wasnot comfortable with my limits , with my, that part of myself i didn't like it. andthe trip, sometimes if its done in a proper way can help you like that the ayahuasca treatment that you are talkingabout is actually is more shocking, and this is why it's still controversial becauseit really like if your ice bucket in the face of ..... (it is a kind of shock thing) yes exactly but there is a risk that ok, hegive up with heroin, but he give even with

social life in fact psychedelics, some class of psychedelics,lsd, morning glory or hawaiian baby woodrose that are hallucinogenic seeds and ayahuascamust be treated very, very carefully because if you do the wrong steps you arefucked. totally! be careful! they was conning you in an incredible way,even now if you go around there back and forth you will hear someone with their lips.....coke,and this kind of stuff. my suggestion is never take this kind of stuff because they alwayscon you. you can get for coke a lidocaine that actually is an aesthetic, very similar,the same. if you try that, the cocaine is

an aesthetic, you do like this (rub into yourgums, etc) your mouth will disappear. the same with lidocaine but it doesn't do nothing. and there is, i'm going to show you, (rummagesthrough his bag) ok, these are one of the most famous pillssold for ecstasy, you see there is an s. they are triangle, they are fake because they are,this one (aspirin) and they are sold even now. for doing that, you see that because these(the aspirin) are giving by the police, so i can show you the lidocaine as well this is lidocaine, its used by dentists, foranesthetising your mouth, and is sold as coke.

if you are lucky, because if you are luckyyou just get this stuff it doesn't really harms you too much. if you are unlucky you can............ (so how much would one of those (lidocaine)be then, if they were selling them?) 10 euro, 12 euro (ok, wow, for tourists they can have a fieldday) 1.5 euro expense euro and there are 15 pillsinside, so let's make a calculation. yeah, there are people here who make a living justconing the tourists (that would be an easy kind of thing to do,i suppose!)

(sure everyone is out of their mind!) (lot of tourists coming here, i would feel,i mean i see a lot of people walking around completely spaced out!) (like do people fall into the canal, on aregular basis?) yes, mostly tourist and because they are doingpsychedelics i work in a smart shop during the day, andwe sell truffles, psychedelic truffles, these one gives you a lot of hallucination and believeme, and i that strongly believe that 80% of the people who fall in the canal because ofthese mushrooms (and do a lot of people die in the canal?)

not dying but getting bad diseases becauseactually its not clean this water, you can have from rats, leptospirosis. surely forskin disease you can have liver hepatitis. you come inside healthy you came out very,very ill! (so that stats are good obviously, you aregoing to show us some impressive stats) yes exactly, because checkout, this is inthe usa and in the netherlands people that used once or more cannabis orcocaine once in their life (for cannabis) in the us 14% in the netherlands22% this is half and we are talking about residentsthat tried at least once for cocaine 13% against 3 .4

this at least means that this policy keepsaway the people that are not really intending to making drugs, starting with the drugs becausehere you have so many opportunities and alternatives you dont want to take the ecstasy. there aremany alternatives that can boost you up, you don't want to take the heroin. there isa a crouton (?) that has the same affects and is totally legal. and it is not addictive this policy gives the people the choice andactually they are making an even a big education in schools about the dangers of drugs. itis very unlikely that someone goes on cocaine, on ecstasy as you can see even that its working

check this out. in europe.this is the numberof problematics of drug users in the eu actually, the uk are on top here (junkies) have places where to go, youcannot see it. walk around freely, you are not scared about someone comes up with a syringe.besides that, check out everywhere you look there is a camera. for one camera that yousee, there is three that you don't see so here this is the safest place in europe, afterlondon......... (what is thujone, you mentioned that before?) thujone, yes, is a active component of absinthe (is it the name of the molecule or something?)

it's the name of the substance. taken outfrom the worm wood plant that is distilled and it's a psychoactive component that openyour mind, and in high quantities, gives you hallucination. when he was doing absinthe, whoever was doingabsinthe, in the old times, i mean the 17th century, 18th century the distillation wasnot perfect and was producing another elements that was connecting with your brain cellsand was making the stopping with each other, stopping the connection with each other, andstopping the synapses these are some of the paintings that has beeninspired by absinthe. this is one of the most famous, called the muse

in fact i make electronic music, when i wasmaking a bottle of absinthe i was making an album in one night. maybe it was shit buti loved it! (yeah, yeah, you had a lot of energy) this is how the dutch think about the periodof danger of drug. they make a scale of 9 points for personal damage and 7 points fordamage to society as we can see alcohol is the worst, it'svery wide, it's used by everybody. there is no emphasising and no education about that. and check out the less problematic is themushrooms, but that is 6 scale for the society problem because when you are eating mushrooms, the trouffles, you makenoise.

alcohol is the first, heroin and cocaine,and then you have methadone, cocaine, tobacco, and these things i don'tknow antidepressant stuff (it kind of makes sense, i think that listmakes sense) lsd, and this one no personal harm (really i would have thought,lsd you'd geta bad trip and...) mental this is to show this is working, and this is whythese are legal here and while in all over europe they are not legal and the alcoholwhich is the worst is legal everywhere. its actually bullshit from my point of view.if the countries just put some more alcohol

education, because alcohol is wonderful likeany kind of substance it is done in a certain way and the right way it's a great thing.but if you abuse it then have lots of problems and actually there are lots of deaths foralcohol, not a single death for weed, not directly related. there are some accidents,car accidents and this kind of stuff, some people, for example, fall into the canal,people here during the winter they got stoned they fall asleep, freeze to death. and theseare related, but not directly related, and this is why its free, and that's all....... (can i ask is there any negatives. anybodyrallying against this in holland, in the netherlands, is there any groups that are against all this.?)

yes because there are always people that wontlike the fact that you have the freedom to do whatever you want. but they are shot downby the results because believe me when they started to apply this policy and did a socialstudy on it. because its not enough that you divide the market, you have to take care ofthe people that will anyway will do hard drugs no matter what because they will do it anyway.you can put them in jail and they are going to get the drugs in the jail. you can makethem fine and they are going to steal, and besides that with all this kind of stuff thereis more crime (but what about the local residents?) the local residents in the area are mostlytourists, not tourists, mostly expats

for the locals actually they have no problem,and besides amsterdam is one city the netherlands is totally different, theyare in the south more open, in the north, closed, and very racist, and in fact thereis no coffeeshop in every city. because if the major doesn't want it, the people doesn'twant it, no coffee shop in the city but the majority of the dutch doesn't givea shit about weed because they are so used (to it) everyone smoking, drunk and having a party,and this is strange but it works in fact, there are for example, in the barswhere they sell alcohol there are about 1000 calls a of the police a month, we are about2 calls a month in the coffeeshops because

anyway cannabis can is a drug that makes youmore relaxed while alcohol makes you urgh! talking about governments, uk and the unitedstates are against and criticising this kind of policy a lot but here in europe they are starting to bea change of thinking i mean they are starting to get used to the idea that weed and hashishare not so dangerous as they can think. that they really are the first steps to thehard drugs if you don't separate the market in the us, colorado, florida and californiaand washington now they can sell weed. colorado made in one month of selling weed as manytaxes as doing taxes in the city for commercial premises. one month and they went to the school, imean just think about that!

the market. the legal market there are somekind of substances that are not harmful so its stupid that they are illegal but not froma point of view from an objective point of view, because if you make the alcohol legalthat is very dangerous, you make....why the weed that is not so dangerous (how long have you been doing this tour?) this now 6 months, and im doing research for3 months because now we are expanding. and they give me some materials and i startedto expand it and in fact even now its still a growing creature. we are asking for permissionfrom the police and the government in order to have access to more information and tosome person, for example we would like to

make an interview and make it on paper inorder to make it available to our tours, for the drug users injection room people for exampleor somebody from the ayahuasca, but in order to do that we need some permission becauseactually as we really want to do the stuff in the correct way we have a private tour that as you can seeyou can ask everything and we can make a different and we have on friday a fixed tour that isfree on a tip basis we have a group that is just more casual wetalk about the coffee shop a group that is just drinkers, we talk aboutthe absinthes, the hangover information and so on

actually i can tell you i am very proud ofthis small creature that is growing we are telling people how is the real stuffhere (the reality) because believe me there are lots of mythsabout this city, and some are true!